PATREON SUBSCRIBERS: You Are the Future of the Movie Trivia Schmoedown!

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Hello everybody! I hope everyone is enjoying the new site. William Bibbiani and his amazing team of writers have really been going above and beyond in the last few days to provide the always hungry Schmoedown audience with more and more content. That has been the goal since we started this thing and as it has evolved to ask the question “What else can we give?”

In December of 2017, Brianne Chandler posed the question to me of why I did not run a Patreon for the Movie Trivia Schmoedown. To be quite honest, I didn’t know enough about it and was a bit naïve of what it could accomplish for the growth of the league. I sat down with Brianne and we talked about what we could accomplish if we did indeed have enough patrons.

I approached Marc Fernandez and told him my plan. Collider was paying for the matches during Season 4 and to be quite honest, it just wasn’t enough for the league to ever grow. I proposed a deal to Marc that I would create a Patreon and pay for the production of the show myself. I proposed that he would give me the Collider studio space on Fridays from 2:30 to 6:00PM. With that time, I would also get the use of the equipment and use of crew. But that was it, Collider would get anything that came in from Youtube ads and if we received any sponsorships. So it was on me to do everything else from the editors, writers, crew for live shows, props, food, etc.

The other thing I was adamant about was paying the competitors. Those of you who are hardcore fans know how invested YOU get. The competitors really go through an emotional roller coaster in this crazy little sport we have invested. This is not to mention that they are missing out on other paid gigs to compete. I couldn’t offer a lot but I would do what I could.

I brought Brianne on to run the Patreon, she had done a lot of research working with Kinda Funny and watching how they built their brand through Patreon. I hired Brianne to run it and it has been one of the best business decisions I have made so far. She is on it, keeps me on it and we collaborate often to make sure that each patron gets a worth while experience no matter the tier.

Let’s talk about the tiers. This was something that I wanted to make sure stood out. I had looked through other provider’s Patreons and a lot of them were very similar. The Schmoedown is so unique that I knew we could offer stuff that other content creators simply couldn’t do because it is just a very different experience.

My approach to the Patreon is that all patrons are emotional investors. I also wanted to make sure that if you were a hardcore MTS fan, that there was something at every tier that made it the ultimate experience. I subscribe to WWE Network, Hulu, Netflix and I wanted the Patreon to serve the same function to the fans as those services did.

I was overwhelmed with the first wave of patrons who began to support the show. We launched over a year ago and the show is almost at 3,000 patrons. At the moment we can afford to pay our competitors, our hosts, two writers, two editors, our P.A., Brianne and the various other things I mentioned above. The Patreon has allowed us to launch this site. It took a while (and some debt) but we got it launched and I am very proud of what it has become so far.

So what do we need to keep moving forward? Well, it is a full fledged business. We want the live element to grow and to do that, venues, flights, hotels, merchandise all need to be considered. I want to start live streaming matches and that is also pricey and we would need specific equipment to do it. Equipment is another thing that is needed desperately next season. We need new cameras, mics amongst other things.

I don’t want to keep doing the show how we do it now. There is no way to grow it, you have to always be evolving in order for the growth to continue. I believe the show needs at least 25,000-30,000 a month to pay for the everything that will go into this new plan next season.

The show averages 30,000-80,000 people per episode on Youtube and close to 30,000 downloads on podcast form. I have asked this question many times: do you think the matches that we put on for the entire year, the scenes, the tournaments and the special events are worth 12.00 a year? It really is the question that I pose. If the majority of you who watch each episode thought the show was worth 1.00 per month, we would be FLYING come next season.

Imagine what I could do?!

Season 6 is going to be exciting… and scary. There will be brand new things that we all try to accomplish and I cannot wait for all of you to come on board. Imagine the feeling you will get when this thing hits the levels that it potentially could. The day it is covered nationally, you can feel proud knowing that it was all of us who got it there. We are in a new age these days with user content. The fan base really serves a very different purpose than it did years ago. You are all investors, whether it is a monetary investor or emotional investor.

I know that not everyone wants to donate and might not understand why we need it. We are not backed by a corporation. I always feel this is misrepresented. We used to be funded by Collider who was funded by Verizon. Collider is now independent and so are we. If Patreon went away tomorrow, so would MTS. Now I am actively looking for sponsorship but it is all of you patrons who make the show continue weekly.

So this post was just to make sure you all knew exactly why we lean so heavily on Patreon and what it is we are ultimately trying to accomplish. I want to thank all of you who are patrons and all of you who aren’t. Thanks to everyone who watched a match, dropped a comment, liked a match, shared an event, it is because of all of you that we are able to keep doing this.

If you would like to become part of the plan and help us grow to the next level please join us at www.patreon.com/schmoedown

We are so excited to show you what’s to come. LET’S GET READY TO SCHMOEDOWN!!!!

Kristian

10 COMMENTS

  1. Thank you Kristian, as always. As one of those die hard fans, and full-on believer in the MTS, it’s huge potential, and of course, believing in yourself and Mark. As a fan, it really pains ME that every week it seems, you have to post yet another article, message etc., on how the MTS works, in front and behind the camera; how you and Mark are paying for this yourself; how there is no corporate sponsorship, that you have to pay employees, the costs of talent, equipment, production and more..
    .Now, IF all of these non-Patron’s QUIT buying 1 Starbucks Mocha Frappe Grande a week, or even a month of cig’s ,you’d have alll that you needed!

  2. Thank you for all the work you do, Kristian, and for taking the time to lay it all out for us like this. I’ve been watching the Schmoedown since the last Free-For-All, and have been a patron for about six months now. It would be worth my (currently) $3 a month even without the bonus content—honestly, the Schmoedown’s worth more—but the thought and care put into your Patreon is considerable, and greatly appreciated.
    One thing that could’ve been useful for an article like this: a list of the bonus matches you’ve posted so far, to give non-patrons a notion of what they’re missing out on.

  3. Thanks, Kristian.
    I only became a Patron on Tuesday but I’ve been watching for years back in the old studio.

    I love all the content, Schmoedown or otherwise, and I’m so excited to see where it goes from here.

    Just wanted to show some love and say #thatstheshow. (damnit, I used it wrong again!)

  4. Can’t wait to see the show grow! This show is so special and awesome! I’m so happy to be a part of the Patreon! Honestly, I watch the Schmoedown more than Netflix. I hope I can get to a point where I can support the show with more than just $5.00 a month. Keep up the great work! Thank you for all the passion everyone puts in to the league.

  5. I think at the end of the day, all you have to do is just keep at it. You’re definitely on the right track, this thing IS growing to the best of my knowledge and considering that it’s getting better and better, more and more people will start and join in on the Patreon. 🙂

    I have already considered doubling my monthly donation (to 20 USD per month) and I’m certain that I’m not the only one – you are reaching a lot of fans and they end up emotionally invested in the show and that’s why they will eventually start supporting you guys with (more of) their hard earned cash. So like I said, just keep at it, I really think this thing will eventually go completely crazy.

  6. Firstly, a huge thank you to Kristian & Mark for their love of pizza, which ultimately lead to the creation of the Schmoedown. Also a big thank you to all of the amazing competitors whose knowledge & enthusiasm for the game & characters they create all combine to make the MTS so great.
    I’ve been a fan since the very beginning & feel lucky I came across the Schmoes when I did so have had the opportunity to see this thing grow into the amazing show/sport/game that it has become. I became a $10 Patreon member a couple of months ago partly in gratitude for the past few years of FREE entertainment you’ve provided, but also because I really believe that the MTS WILL get even bigger & better & I’m excited to be able to be a part of that growth.
    As Kristian asked, is what they’re doing worth $12 a YEAR? No. It’s worth WAY more!! $1 a month for this kind of content is the bargain of the century! PLEASE consider kicking in less than half of just one of your DAILY coffees for a WHOLE MONTH of great entertainment!

  7. Thank you Kristian! I am proud to be one of the many people supportin this incredible show and will gladly sacrifice any other subscription to make sure that the Schmoedown can survive!

  8. Very recently the live event in NY sold out in like 3 days and it made me wonder about something. Let me preface what I’m about to say with the fact that I’m not passing any judgement, I’m just curious. I wonder how many of the people that bought tickets are not patrons. Kristian makes an excellent point by asking if $12 a year is worth it. So I wonder, if people are willing to pay at least $30 for a general admission ticket to a single live event, what would hold one back from $12 for an entire year of content? Again, no judgement, everyone’s reasons and situations are their own and valid. Just offering some food for thought 😊

  9. Dear Folks!

    I have been following MovieTalk and Schmoes for years, and I honestly think the combined brand has never been as strong as right now, you people are the best combination of TV-channel and reality soap one could possibly hope for, love you all to death 🙂

    That said, I do have a seriousquestion for you:

    Sitting in Europe, I know credit cards are a central part of daily transactions in America – over here however, in all my 34 years I have never needed one for anything, not once. I love the Schmoedown dearly, I want to see every exclusive match and I absolutely do want to give you money and contribute to this fantastic show! But since Patreon does only work with a credit card, I feel put on the spot. Because I do not want to need to get one, just because a third party involved will not accept any other payment method. As an adult with a job and a perfectly fine bank account and paypal etc., this really does sadden me. And with the numbers of viewers and listeners from all over the globe you mention, I cannot be the only one having this issue. The way it is right now, you are losing out on fans wanting to contribute money, and we (I) are losing out on brilliant content, which is a lose-lose-situation.

    I would love to hear from you, if you know of any plans by Patreon to change their payment
    methods, or if you would mind considering alternate ways to support the show and get those tasty extra bits of content!

    Thank you all, keep up the great work, lots of love from Germany –

    Julian

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